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Justin.kredible
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Obama’s Olympic failure will only add to doubts about his presidency


There has been a growing narrative taking hold about Barack Obama’s presidency in recent weeks: that he is loved by many, but feared by none; that he is full of lofty vision, but is actually achieving nothing with his grandiloquence.

Chicago’s dismal showing yesterday, after Mr Obama’s personal, impassioned last-minute pitch, is a stunning humiliation for this President. It cannot be emphasised enough how this will feed the perception that on the world stage he looks good — but carries no heft.

It was only the Olympic Games, the White House will argue — not a high-stakes diplomatic gamble with North Korea. It is always worthwhile when Mr Obama sells America to the rest of the world, David Axelrod, his chief political adviser, said today. But that argument will fall on deaf ears in the US. Americans want their presidents to be winners.

Mr Obama was greeted — as usual — like a rock star by the IOC delegates in Copenhagen — then humiliated by them. Perception is reality. A narrow defeat for Chicago would have been acceptable — but the sheer scale of the defeat was a bombshell, and is a major blow for Mr Obama at a time when questions are being asked about his style of governance.

At home, it is difficult to turn on a television and not see Mr Obama giving a press conference, or an interview, or at a town hall rally, in his all-out effort to sell his troubled reform the US health insurance system. After three months of enormous exposure, Mr Obama has achieved this: the growing likelihood of ramming a Bill through Congress with — at most — just one Republican vote.

Abroad, Mr Obama promised in his Inauguration address to engage America’s enemies, and he has done just that. He has very little to show for it. Yes, Iran took part in bilateral talks with the US this week over its nuclear weapons programme — but that is something Tehran has wanted for years. There is still a very good chance that the meetings will prove to be an exercise in futility and a time-wasting ploy by Tehran.

Mr Obama also scrapped a plan for a missile defence shield in the Czech Republic and Poland, hoping to get in return Russian co-operation behind new sanctions against Tehran. There was optimism when President Medvedev said “sanctions are seldom productive, but they are sometimes inevitable”. Yet Vladimir Putin, and the Chinese, remain fiercely opposed to sanctions.

Meanwhile, America and its allies are being forced to witness a very public agonising by Mr Obama and his advisers over his Afghan strategy — six months after he announced that strategy.

This has all added to the perception that Mr Obama’s soaring rhetoric — which captured the imagination during last year’s election — is simply not enough when it comes to confronting the myriad challenges of the presidency. His spectacular Olympic failure will only add to that.

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Drew
Yes, it will add doubts amongst the impressionable idiots who get all their news from Beck and Hannity and didn't like Obama in the first place.

Drew
Conservative Joe Scarborough: "Count me as one conservative who is disappointed that President Obama's hometown will not be hosting the 2016 Olympic Games. Chicago is a beautiful city that would have made a perfect backdrop for the Olympics. The President was right to fly to Copenhagen to try to land the games, not for the sake of his city, but for the good of his country. The fact President Obama failed makes me respect him more for taking the chance, and the fact many right-wing figures opposed the President's mission shows just how narrow-minded partisanship makes us all."
kindnessfirst
great quote, Drew. Do you have the link? I'd like to use it on another forum. tongue.gif
Drew
QUOTE (kindnessfirst @ Oct 2 2009, 05:23 PM) *
great quote, Drew. Do you have the link? I'd like to use it on another forum. tongue.gif

Sure.. he wrote a piece for the huffington post, here
Calypso
It's a good quote, but I really don't see where Obama failed.
kindnessfirst
That's why this quote is so good, Caly. It comes from a conservative that is part of a group of folks that do nothing but bitch an moan about Obama. They are part of the problem rather than part of the solution.
Jack Daniel's
We were screwed going in. South America was ripe for an Olympics and the pressure was on to make it happen. America has had Olympics before, so the committee was sure to be looking for "new blood".

But Obama did the right thing, whether we got it or not. Can you imagine the hue and cry if he didn't go and we lost? Surely the Obama haters would be hanging him in effigy.
Drew
QUOTE (Jack Daniel's @ Oct 2 2009, 09:24 PM) *
We were screwed going in. South America was ripe for an Olympics and the pressure was on to make it happen. America has had Olympics before, so the committee was sure to be looking for "new blood".

But Obama did the right thing, whether we got it or not. Can you imagine the hue and cry if he didn't go and we lost? Surely the Obama haters would be hanging him in effigy.

Plus he went in at the last second, I think at the request of friends who were hoping he could work some last-ditch magic. The bid was already in trouble. It's not like he staked his reputation on it. Limbaugh, Drudge etc are angry turds.
Jack Daniel's
QUOTE (Drew @ Oct 2 2009, 11:04 PM) *
Limbaugh, Drudge etc are angry turds.


HOLD ON!

Did the world end?

Drew and I agree on something!
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Justin.kredible
The President is giving away t-shirts.

To funny! lol.gif

kindnessfirst
It is funny! Thanks for sharing.
Drew
QUOTE (Justin.kredible @ Oct 4 2009, 09:58 AM) *
The President is giving away t-shirts.

To funny!
I don't get why he'd spend so much time on makeup and then not even attempt to imitate Obama's speech patterns.

kindnessfirst
QUOTE (Drew @ Oct 4 2009, 01:09 PM) *
I don't get why he'd spend so much time on makeup and then not even attempt to imitate Obama's speech patterns.
haha ... because he can! They only care about making money, not getting it right. If viewership increases and sponsors are happy, what incentives would the show have to ask the actor to get Obama's mannerisms down pat?
Drew
QUOTE (kindnessfirst @ Oct 4 2009, 01:24 PM) *
haha ... because he can! They only care about making money, not getting it right. If viewership increases and sponsors are happy, what incentives would the show have to ask the actor to get Obama's mannerisms down pat?
because that's what doing impressions entails?

it's like he thought our president was Chazz Palminteri
kindnessfirst
QUOTE (Drew @ Oct 4 2009, 05:01 PM) *
because that's what doing impressions entails?

it's like he thought our president was Chazz Palminteri

We'll see if he is featured again, as Obama. If he is, it will be proof that the producers don't give a care whether he is good or not.
Invision
Kudos to Brazil!

Combo breaker.

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Drew
QUOTE (kindnessfirst @ Oct 4 2009, 07:02 PM) *
We'll see if he is featured again, as Obama. If he is, it will be proof that the producers don't give a care whether he is good or not.
do you really think that the cast doesn't care about putting on a good show? SNL's ratings (and ad dollars) go up and down, like any other show. they need to put out the best product they can.
Jack Daniel's
QUOTE (Drew @ Oct 4 2009, 10:09 PM) *
do you really think that the cast doesn't care about putting on a good show? SNL's ratings (and ad dollars) go up and down, like any other show. they need to put out the best product they can.

SNL has lost market share steadily over the last couple of years. It is not the same show it was with Chevvy Chase, Jane Curtin, Belushi and the rest of the original comics. The skits are becoming stale, the comics just aren't funny and it has lost its edge.
Drew
QUOTE (Jack Daniel's @ Oct 5 2009, 05:54 AM) *
SNL has lost market share steadily over the last couple of years. It is not the same show it was with Chevvy Chase, Jane Curtin, Belushi and the rest of the original comics. The skits are becoming stale, the comics just aren't funny and it has lost its edge.
I agree, though people apparently have liked the past couple years; ratings have been up.

I just don't agree with KF (with all due respect) that the people involved in the show don't do good work because the show will make money regardless. It doesn't make sense because a) a bad show loses ratings and therefore money and b) everyone involved wants to make a good product, for the sake of each other and their own enjoyment and career.
oldr_n_wsr
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It is not the same show it was with Chevvy Chase, Jane Curtin, Belushi and the rest of the original comics.

Gildna Radner was the best of them. (in case you didn't know she was the dancing NBC sign during the nightly news). nice legs
Went too young and not from her own fault like so many of the cast over the years.
oldr_n_wsr
And just to weigh in on the the OP, who cares. I wouild like to see a ral comparison on how much paid to the olympic comitte and how much it costs to host (buildings/arenas/tracks and fields, whatever else needs to be built) versus actual dollars made. I would bet it's a losing proposition.
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