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Calypso
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Mom: Girl killed herself over online hoax

Teen distraught at end of MySpace relationship; neighbor family created ID

The Associated Press
updated 1:24 a.m. ET, Sat., Nov. 17, 2007
DARDENNE PRAIRIE, Mo. - Megan Meier thought she had made a new friend in cyberspace when a cute teenage boy named Josh contacted her on MySpace and began exchanging messages with her.

Megan, a 13-year-old who suffered from depression and attention deficit disorder, corresponded with Josh for more than a month before he abruptly ended their friendship, telling her he had heard she was cruel.

The next day Megan committed suicide. Her family learned later that Josh never actually existed; he was created by members of a neighborhood family that included a former friend of Megan's.

Now Megan's parents hope the people who made the fraudulent profile on the social networking Web site will be prosecuted, and they are seeking legal changes to safeguard children on the Internet.

The girl's mother, Tina Meier, said she doesn't think anyone involved intended for her daughter to kill herself.

‘Absolutely vile’
"But when adults are involved and continue to screw with a 13-year-old, with or without mental problems, it is absolutely vile," she told the Suburban Journals of Greater St. Louis, which first reported on the case.

Tina Meier said law enforcement officials told her the case did not fit into any law. But sheriff's officials have not closed the case and pledged to consider new evidence if it emerges.

Megan Meier hanged herself in her bedroom on Oct. 16, 2006, and died the next day. She was described as a "bubbly, goofy" girl who loved spending time with her friends, watching movies and fishing with her dad.

Megan had been on medication, but had been upbeat before her death, her mother said, after striking up a relationship on MySpace with Josh Evans about six weeks before her death.

Josh told her he was born in Florida and had recently moved to the nearby community of O'Fallon. He said he was homeschooled, and didn't yet have a phone number in the area to give her.

Megan's parents said she received a message from him on Oct. 15 of last year, essentially saying he didn't want to be her friend anymore, that he had heard she wasn't nice to her friends.

Megan seemed upset
The next day, as Megan's mother headed out the door to take another daughter to the orthodontist, she knew Megan was upset about Internet messages. She asked Megan to log off. Users on MySpace must be at least 14, though Megan was not when she opened her account. A MySpace spokeswoman did not return calls seeking comment.


Someone using Josh's account was sending cruel messages. Then, Megan called her mother, saying electronic bulletins were being posted about her, saying things like, "Megan Meier is a slut. Megan Meier is fat."

Megan's mother, who monitored her daughter's online communications, returned home and said she was shocked at the vulgar language her own daughter was sending. She told her daughter how upset she was about it.

Megan ran upstairs, and her father, Ron, tried to tell her everything would be fine. About 20 minutes later, she was found in her bedroom. She died the next day.

Her father said he found a message the next day from Josh, which he said law enforcement authorities have not been able to retrieve. It told the girl she was a bad person and the world would be better without her, he has said.

Another parent, who learned of the MySpace account from her own daughter who had access to the Josh profile, told Megan's parents about the hoax in a counselor's office about six weeks after Megan died. That's when they learned Josh was imaginary, they said.

Creator of fake account not charged
The woman who created the fake profile has not been charged with a crime. She allegedly told the St. Charles County Sheriff's Department she created Josh's profile because she wanted to gain Megan's confidence to know what Megan was saying about her own child online.

The mother from down the street told police that she, her daughter and another person all typed and monitored the communication between the fictitious boy and Megan.

A person who answered the door at the family's house told an Associated Press reporter on Friday afternoon that they had been advised not to comment.

Megan's parents had been storing a foosball table for the family that created the MySpace character. Six weeks after Megan's death, they learned the other family had created the profile and responded by destroying the foosball table, dumping it on the neighbors' driveway and encouraging them to move away.

Megan's parents are now separated and plan to divorce.

Aldermen in Dardenne Prairie, a community of about 7,000 residents about 35 miles from St. Louis, have proposed a new ordinance related to child endangerment and Internet harassment. It could come before city leaders on Wednesday.

"Is this enough?" Mayor Pam Fogarty said Friday. "No, not by any stretch of the imagination, but it's something, and you have to start somewhere."



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This is a very sad, twisted story, more so because it was an adult playing games on myspace. While I can understand that the family is distraught, is it right to blame myspace? Or is this another case where parents were not monitoring their child's online activity and are looking to blame someone else? Do you think that the woman who created the false profile should be prosecuted?
Tigerguy001
Its a terrible thing that this happened . I dont think myspace is to blame that would be like blaming the post office for delevering a nasty "dear john" letter to someone that upsets them and causes them to do a similar thing .

I would think that the parent that was a part of all this would be charged for child endangerment among other things . This is not the kind of lesson parents shoudl be teaching thier childern .

What ever happened to teaching the golden rule ?
Mahoolihan
Wow ... how horrible. I'm just not sure who is to blame here, outside of the parents of the girl who died. Technically, the offending mother did nothing illegal, and didn't even really endanger the girl who died. MySpace isn't to blame either, IMO. It was shitty of the folks who created Josh, but not punishable by the law. Truly sad. sad.gif
Calypso
I can't see where MySpace is responsible at all. What the woman did was reprehensible, obviously setting a poor example for her daughter who was in on it. I can't see charging them with anything, unless some sort of harrassment thing would stick.

Sadly, if it weren't this event, then something else would have pushed that troubled child over the edge.
MrPink
Myspace definitely wasn't to blame for this.. They were just the medium used for the messages..
I wonder if there would be the same amount of commotion if the messages were sent via MSN or Yahoo e.g.
(or snail mail as mentioned earlier)
purrrhaps
there really isn't anyone to blame here, but especially not myspace. It's a horrible thing what happened to the young girl and it breaks my heart to hear the story and think about how she suffered, but this girl obviously did have issues and although the neighbor's "joke" of pretending to be Josh was cruel, the young girl's issue were obviously very deep and troubled.

I'm sure there are still a few old pitters left that will remember the situation between two members that got really scary and I still don't really know how that story ever ended, but it was very sad to see it unwind like it did right in front of all of us.
oldr_n_wsr
Soem people are twisted. Hopefully, some day, they will get what they deserve.
Jack Daniel's
It is difficult to research the law.

I do not know if this law would apply in MO, but it is interesting, nonetheless, IMO.

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In Com. v. Bowen, 13 Mass. 356; 7 Am. Dec. 154, it was held that if a person counseled another to commit suicide, and such other person by reason of the advice killed himself, the adviser was guilty of murder as principal.
fiesty paws
The lady who created Josh's profile is a very curel person. i hope this rest's on her mind for years to come.and i do feel sorry for Megan's family.sad and tragic.
Calypso
Looks like they indicted the woman who created the profile.
Chimera
Why have things come to this? Because in todays day and age folks take the internet to personally. Parents should teach kids that they should be able to set boundries between electronic and real life relationships.
Drew
QUOTE (Chimera @ May 15 2008, 01:55 PM) *
Why have things come to this? Because in todays day and age folks take the internet to personally. Parents should teach kids that they should be able to set boundries between electronic and real life relationships.
Now that everyone you know is online, that boundary is getting tougher and tougher to set. Regardless, the Internet isn't the central storyline here -- this was simply an adult acting like a vindictive kid, perpetrating a hoax on a child. I guess putting a flaming bag of shit on the girl's doorstep was too risky for her. Just wrong.
Chimera
QUOTE (Drew @ May 15 2008, 06:28 PM) *
Now that everyone you know is online, that boundary is getting tougher and tougher to set. Regardless, the Internet isn't the central storyline here -- this was simply an adult acting like a vindictive kid, perpetrating a hoax on a child. I guess putting a flaming bag of shit on the girl's doorstep was too risky for her. Just wrong.



This is true, the more I think about it, what the hell was this woman thinking of? She is 49! She also has got to have some mental issues to think the way she did.
oldr_n_wsr
The anonomaty of the net gets people thinking they can do anything with impunity.
Mahoolihan
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Tina Meier, the mother of the dead girl, said Drew deserves the maximum of three years behind bars.

"For me it's never been about vengeance," she said. "This is about justice."

A lot of people affected by crime use this boilerplate quote to the press, yet what Tina Meier seems to be saying is that a three-year prison sentence for Lori Drew would be sufficient to satisfy Meier's sense of "justice." That's a pretty gracious mom. I don't think I could be that gracious.

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Most members of the six-man, six-woman jury left court without speaking to reporters. One juror, who identified himself by his first name only, Marcilo, indicated jurors were not convinced Drew's actions involved the intent alleged by prosecutors.

"Some of the jurors just felt strongly that it wasn't tortious and everybody needed to stay with their feeling. That was really the balancing point," he said.

The case hinged on an unprecedented — and, some legal experts say, highly questionable — application of computer-fraud law.

Drew was not directly charged with causing Megan's death. Instead, prosecutors indicted her under the federal Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, which in the past has been used in hacking and trademark theft cases.

Among other things, Drew was charged with conspiring to violate the fine print in MySpace's terms-of-service agreement, which prohibits the use of phony names and harassment of other MySpace members.

"This was a very aggressive, if not misguided, theory," said Matt Levine, a New York-based defense attorney and former federal prosecutor. "Unfortunately, there's not a law that covers every bad thing in the world. It's a bad idea to use laws that have very different purpose."


I read this and kind of wondered if there aren't two things going on here:
1.) It's a complicated, connect-the-dots prosecution approach that leads to my second thought, which is,
2.) Are people getting sick and tired of everyone blaming everyone else for the bad things someone does?

That last quote is pretty telling to me. You can't write a law that says "Don't take advantage of depressed teens on MySpace. It's despicable, and her neighbors, friends, family, acquaintances, future employers, etc, will make Lori Drew is going to pay for her actions (through social and emotional isolation and humiliation) in ways the legal system never could. May be that's the way it ought to be.
oldr_n_wsr
If her actions caused my daughter to commit suicide, she would not last a day once she was released.
Jack Daniel's
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Feds want 3-year term for deadly MySpace hoax
by Associated Press

Originally printed at http://www.komonews.com/news/national/44528197.html

LOS ANGELES (AP) - A Missouri mother should serve three years in prison for her role in a MySpace hoax on a 13-year-old neighbor who committed suicide, federal prosecutors said in court documents filed Wednesday.

Assistant U.S. Attorney Mark Krause outlined the government's position while requesting the maximum sentence for Lori Drew. Probation officials have recommended Drew receive a year of probation and a $5,000 fine.

Krause argued that Drew "coldly conceived of a scheme to humiliate" Megan Meier, a neighbor in a St. Louis suburb, by helping create a fictitious teenage boy on the social networking site and sending flirtatious messages in his name to the girl.

The fake boy then dumped Megan in a message saying the world would be better without her. She hanged herself a short time later.

Drew used her then-13-year-old daughter and a business assistant in the scheme, which played on Megan's insecurities, Krause said.

"Both the callousness of defendant's criminal conduct and the extraordinary harm it caused mandate a sentence of more than probation," Krause wrote.

Drew was convicted in November of three counts of accessing computers without authorization. Besides up to three years in prison, she could face a $300,000 fine at sentencing set for May 18.

Drew's attorney, Dean Steward, has asked U.S. District Court Judge George Wu to throw out the verdicts.

Steward said his client couldn't afford the $5,000 fine recommended by probation officials because she no longer draws income from the coupon book business she had for nine years.

During the trial, prosecutors argued that Drew violated MySpace rules by setting up the phony profile for a boy named "Josh Evans." Jurors decided Drew was not guilty of the more serious felonies of intentionally causing emotional harm while accessing computers without authorization.

The jury could not reach an unanimous verdict on a felony conspiracy charge.

Drew was not directly charged with causing Megan's death.

Some legal experts believe prosecutors are still smarting over the conviction on lesser crimes. In his filing, Krause continued to argue there is convincing evidence that shows Drew set out to inflict emotional harm to Megan.

"They are just totally gung-ho on this case," Matt Levine, a New York-based defense attorney and former federal prosecutor, said about prosecutors. "On one hand, what Lori Drew did was egregious and she should be brought to justice, but they have used the wrong legal theory here."

Levine said it would have been more appropriate for Missouri authorities to charge Drew with harassment. Police there, however, have said they didn't file any charges against Drew in part because there was no applicable state law.

The trial was held in Los Angeles because the servers of the social networking site are in the area.
krazy
QUOTE (Calypso @ May 15 2008, 03:43 PM) *
Looks like they indicted the woman who created the profile.


I saw this EXACT scenario on Law & Order SVU...and they indicted the mother who created the profile on there too!
Invision
Old news and will probably earn myself a necromancy card, but I couldn't pass up this quote.

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"I was trying to get her angry so she would leave him alone and I could get rid of the whole MySpace," Grills told the morning show.


You did a fine job of getting her to 'leave him alone'...
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